i sure did.
and after years and years, they did finally stop.
it's great to have them back.
Good for you mega!
I've not been outright shunned yet coz I'm only faded. Only a handful of my dub friends stay in touch with me though and that shows that they are true friends. Family is hugely important to me and I wouldn't take easily to them shunning me if I ever end up getting DF/DA (which I've no plans to do). I'd do everything in my power to stop that happening, for my own sake as well as my child's. Don't want him to not have his grandparents in his life.
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and i don't mean in any biblical way.. i joined a savings group at work and we put money away every month & i can tell you now it's quite cool at the end of the year to get an envelope with a wad of money in it and it's all mine.
so i'm going to be saving even more next year.. then i have a personal savings that i put into whenever i have a little extra over and i use that during the year to perhaps pay off a bill or if it doesn't have to go towards that, buy myself a little something.. plus do you save or have insurance policies for when you're older.
i've got 3 that i've staggered out.
Yep! I was taught that lesson of saving as a child - learned it the hard way, as I do with most things!
So now I save both short and long term, though I only started the long-term one since coming out of the dubs and realising I couldn't rely on a divinity for my financial future £€$£€$
now that i am opening my eyes more and more, i am starting to realize that jw's don't see the need to take responsibility for anything.. like in the wt for this week, if a jw marriage fails, they can say it was because they didnt pray enough, or preach together enough.. if an elder gives counsel about anything, then if it seems to work for the person, then he accepts the praise or says it came from jehovah.. but if things don't work out, then the elder will blame the person for not following the counsel right.
or he will tell them to wait on jehovah.. or if there is a wrong teaching, it is never really wrong, it is only the light getting brighter.. it doesnt really matter what happens in a persons life, it is never the fault of jw's or teachings or decisions.
they will say that jehovah is allowing this test, or that the person didnt follow the counsel, or that jehovah is doing things in a special way, or that we don't know yet why that happened, but we will.. for a person that has a comfortable life, and things going pretty well, and they never ask the elders for help, often they think that is jehovah's blessing.. but if something big goes wrong, and the elders give bad advice, or they punish someone and call it "help" and they mess up a persons life, it completely doesnt matter to them.
If the numbers of pubs/baptised/studies etc goes up, its Jehovah's blessing - if it goes down its Satan's persecution.
If you leave and you do badly, that's Jehovah drawing his spirit and blessing away from you. If you do well, then Satan is taking care of those who are his own. (Although apparently this satanic "blessing" is short-lived - though many on here would disagree!)
They have an answer for everything as anything, good or bad, can be made to fit on the jehovah/satan blessing/persecution continuem.
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Is that a threat?
being a scotsman i find myself pround of the history of scotland.
however, there are many events that took place in scotland that are simply shameful.
consider the time period of 1500 - 1650 where in scotland over a 1,000 woman were burned at the stake accused of being a witch.
It's lasted this long and that in spite of many failed preditions. Most witnesses will obey the command not to look at any websites aside from the offical one. So they will hide themselves from the information even though its available freely and easily.
The number coming in from "the world" may go down but you're still gonna get the kids of dubs being dunked. And of course the jws will continue to target the poor and uneducated on the ministry. They're far less likely to do research on the witnesses online IMO.
i just finished reading a 1943 essay by bertrand russell (not related to crackpot ctr as far as i know, lol) where he discusses his cynical viewpoint of religious beliefs.
towards the end of his essay, he indicates that, instead of being disgusted by people who believe crazy implausibilities, he is actually somewhat amused, even entertained, by some of them, when their beliefs are generally harmless to the rest of the population.
after listing a few of these what he terms superstitions that "add to the gaity of life", he makes an interesting statement that jws should pay attention to:.
Interesting stuff a@g. Thanks for posting it.
I'm trying to get a bit more familar with the past presidents of the WTS and how they shaped the doctrine of their time.
That all their policies and procedures are not worth the paper they're written on. They are ignored if/when they don't suit the interests of the WTS/Branch/elder in question.
Oh and all of the above too!
to all those who left the jw send all the brother and sisters a xmax card.
can all of you pick out what to say in it.
What about "Na-nah na-na-nah!"
Or "come over to the Dark Side" - said in a Darth Vadar voice ?
were the majority of witnesses in your hall somehow sick?
either physically, emotionally or mentally?.
most jws i knew had some unexplainable ailment or 2. and a number suffered from depression!!
We were fine until 1995, then many of the older ones started taking depression medication.
Hi Ynot,
Do you think that was coz of the generation change?
Even when I was in, I noticed that poor health was a huge problem. Literally every family was dealing with some member with a chronic illness. In some cases more than one member was quite ill.
it seems many awaken for so many different reasons......for me...ya...changing the bible and making it say what they wanted it to..........oompa
Outlaw,
You post some great little animations! And some very funny comments to go along with them. Your post about "dubots" certainly gave me a laugh.
